Committees & DTFs

Parking Expansion DTF

Parking Expansion DTF

Parking Expansion Disappearing Task Force

  • February 2, 2000
  • 1:00 - 3:00 p.m.

Meeting Notes

Attending: Thomas Bain, Thad Curtz, Wendy Freeman, Michel George, Susan Graham (SCA), Doug Hitch, Mark Lacina, Sherry Parsons, Paul Przybylowicz, Perry Shea (SCA), Bill Zaugg, John Carmichael

1. Discussion - Thad

Thad suggested that the group begin to discuss some of the ideas from previous meetings with a greater level of specificity. As an example, he offered a more detailed discussion of using part of the parkway for overflow parking. Thad estimated that for $100,000 (half the yearly cost of some of the reconfiguration options), the college could close a mile of the parkway, operate a van (estimated cost: $35,000) and pay a driver (about $6,000/year) to run a shuttle along the parkway for six hours a day during the academic year. Enough money would be left over to pay people to park on the parkway instead of in the lots - perhaps as much as $1.50/day.

2. New SCA Option

At Michel George's request, SCA Engineering presented a new option for reconfiguring the parking lots. Many of the rows in the parking lots have small grassy "knobs" that jut out between two parking stalls. In the new option, all of these knobs would be converted to parking stalls. In addition, many rows would be slightly lengthened by reducing the grassy areas at the ends of rows. If all lots were reconfigured in this way using standard 9'x18' parking stalls, the college would gain 403 parking spaces, enough to meet the county's requirements for Seminar II. The cost would probably be between $400,000 and $500,000. The group named this "Option 7" or the "no-knob" option.

Susan and Perry responded to several questions about this option:

  • How would this option affect storm water run off? Perry said that this issue would have to be addressed. The option would increase the impervious surface area somewhat. It might be possible, for additional money, to use part of one lot to attempt a mitigation project, perhaps experimenting with pervious paving systems.
  • Would this option preserve the trees in the parking lot? SCA did not have the tree survey when they developed this option. Many of the "knobs" have trees in them, some of which may be worth saving.
  • If some smaller, "compact" stalls were included, how many stalls would be gained? Perhaps by including compact stalls, we can avoid cutting down some trees. SCA will look at this variation.
  • Is there a "hell no" option? Can the college convince the county to issue permits for Seminar II without requiring more parking spaces? Susan and Perry said that this seemed highly unlikely. The county made a concession to the college when it agreed to look only at Seminar II in calculating the parking need and not at the whole campus. If the whole campus is used to calculate the number of parking stalls required, the number would be much higher.

3. Parking Management Study

The group discussed the draft Parking Management Study prepared by SCA. Susan said that SCA needs some direction from the DTF in order to explore a smaller number of options in more detail. Mark said that it is difficult to weigh the options without knowing the costs. Thad said that options that require non-parkers to pay a fee do not seem feasible. Michel suggested that another option, Option 5, be added which would include coin-operated machines to dispense hourly permits.

The group agreed to set aside Options 2 and 3 in the parking management study and concentrate on the other options, including Michel's new Option 5. SCA will get rough estimates of the costs associated with Options 1, 4, and 5 within the next two weeks.

4. Additional Options

Thomas presented a plan for reconfiguring lots B and C that would add 508 new spaces and leave a few large green spaces placed to save some of the large trees. . Widening the planting strips and narrowing the driving lanes could increase green spaces further.

5. Deliberation

Wendy asked the group to select three parking options to present to the community for comment. Paul said that the new Option 7, the no-knob plan should be included. The group identified several questions about this option that need to be answered:

  • What is the effect of the plan on existing trees? The tree survey group will be asked to work with SCA to answer this question.
  • How would this option affect stormwater runoff? SCA will consult with Tom Holz. Michel George will ask Jim Stroh if his students would be willing to analyze this option.
  • Can the option be improved by also re-striping the lots to include compact spaces and removing less green space?

6. Next Meeting

The next meeting is scheduled for Wednesday, February 9, 2000. The group will concentrate on identifying three options to present to the community for comment. Return to the Parking Expansion DTF Home Page
This page last updated on February 9, 2000.